Understand The Truth Of Receiving The Holy Spirit According To The Bible

True Jesus Church contend earnestly for the truth with one of denomination(called Lost Sheep) in China

[Understanding of receiving the Holy Spirit] Correct various misconceptions about receiving the Holy Spirit and correctly understand the truth of receiving the Holy Spirit according to the Bible

1,Lost Sheep believer Jedidiah: Ephesians 1:13 "You also believed in Christ, having heard the word of truth, the Gospel of your salvation, and having believed in him you were sealed with the Promise of the Holy Spirit."

Once we have faith in god's true word, we receive the promised of the Holy Spirit which is the evidence of the saints' inheritance.

True Jesus church Br.David: Ephesians 1:13 "You also believed in Christ, having heard the word of truth, the Gospel of your salvation, and having believed in him you were sealed with the Promise of the Holy Spirit."

It is right that receiving the Holy Spirit is the proof of inheritance. But it is not necessarily that believers receive the Holy Spirit immediately the moment when they believe the truth. You can't read the Bible out of context. We need look at the cause and result. This verse is Paul's letter to the Ephesians after he left Ephesian. Paul told the Ephesians that you received the Holy Spirit because you received the word of truth. Instead of they receiving the word from Paul, they immediately receive the Holy Spirit.

Look at Acts 19. Why didn't the Ephesians receive the Holy Spirit at the beginning when they received the word?

Paul said, "John baptized with the baptism of repentance, telling the people that they should believe in him who would come after him, that is, in Jesus." When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus. When Paul had laid his hands on them, the Holy Spirit came on them, and they spoke with tongues and prophesied. There were about twelve of them." "(Acts 19:4-7 NIV)

Jedidiah: No answer.

2，Jedidiah: "When Paul preached to the Gentiles, they received the Holy Spirit when they heard from him."

True Jesus Church: Why did the Ephesians not receive the Holy Spirit when they were hearing Paul's message? Why did the Ephesians receive the Holy Spirit when Paul laid his hands on it? Why it is at the moment when the Ephesians receive the Spirit, they speak in tongues? Instead of the moment listening to the sermon or the moment when they believe in the word of God?

Jedidiah: Fail to answer.

3, Jedidiah: 1 Corinthians 12:28-31 "God has established in the church: first apostles, second prophets, third teachers, second works of miracles, then gifts of healing, helpers, administrators, and speakers of tongues. Are they all apostles? Are all prophets? Are all teachers? Do all work miracles? Do all have gifts of healing? Do all speak in tongues? Do they all translate in tongues? Earnestly seek the greater gift. But now I show you the best way.

True Jesus Church: It is the recipient of the Holy Spirit who will have all kinds of spiritual gifts. Like curing diseases and driving away ghosts. But not whoever owing a spiritual gift has received the Holy Spirit. Seventy healers and drive out demons. Why did they not receive the Holy Spirit?

Just like that people who own a house have a house to dwell in, but does having a house to stay means you own the house?

Do not confuse between receiving the Holy Spirit with being touched by the Spirit. Do not wrongly regard being touched by the Spirit as receiving the Holy Spirit.

Jedidiah: Fail to answer.

4,Jedidiah: Mattew 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders, to deceive, if it were possible, even the elect.

True Jesus Church: The devil does do miracles. Miracles do not necessarily lead to truth. But is there truth to be confirmed by signs and wonders? Does the Holy Spirit perform greater miracles than the devil? And overcome the signs of the devil? Do signs and wonders accompany and confirm the truth? "And these signs will follow those who believe, and in my name they will cast out demons. Speak a new dialect; . And they went out, and preached the Gospel everywhere. And the Lord worked with them, and confirmed the word by the signs that followed. Amen! (20) can be concealed,

Jedidiah the sheep: Fail to answer.

5,Jedidiah: Preaching the true teaching and the speaking of tongues is only a gift. Miracles like driving out demons, everyone owns it more or less, but we cannot judge a man by his appearance, but by his word.

True Jesus Church: It is true that the word is the most important. But signs and wonders confirm the truth. There are signs and wonders, not necessarily truth. But where there is faith, there must be signs and wonders to prove it. The Holy Spirit heals and drives out demons. But they that heal, and cast out devils, do not mean they have received the Holy Spirit. You're confusing the difference between being touched by the Holy Spirit and receiving the Holy Spirit. Why do seventy people have healers and drive out demons, but they have not received the Holy Spirit?

Jedidiah: Fail to answer.

True Jesus Church: There are different kinds of gifts. You are confusing the difference between gifts. Speaking in tongues as a spiritual gift is one of them. But speaking in tongues as a gift of salvation, everyone must speak in tongues. If no one interprets the tongue, he speaks in a tongue to himself and to God. If you cannot speak in tongues, how can you speak in tongues to God and to yourself? Paul said, I pray in a tongue, but my spirit prays. I will pray with my mind, but also with my spirit. How can you pray in tongues when you cannot speak tongues? How do you pray in the spirit? How do you follow what the Bible says?

Jedidiah: Fail to answer.

True Jesus Church: I answer your questions one by one. Why don't you answer mine? You shall wake up, believe in the Bible, believe in the word of God, may the Lord be gracious and bless you! Thanks be to god!

In conclusion: it is not when we believe the word of God that we receive the Holy  Spirit, nor when we are baptized, nor when we understand the truth. When is the time to receive the Holy Spirit? It is when speaking in tongues. Speaking in tongues testifies people receive the Holy Spirit.

"For they heard them speaking with tongues and magnifying God. Then Peter said, "Can anyone forbid these people from being baptized with water, since they have received the Holy Spirit just as we have?" And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ." (make they - 48)

"If I pray in a tongue, my spirit prays, but my understanding is unfruitful. What about this? I will pray with my spirit, but also with my understanding; I will sing with my spirit, but also with my understanding. . If anyone speaks in an unknown tongue... But if there is no interpreter, let him keep quiet in the church and speak to himself and God." (1 cor. 14:14-15, 27 to 28)